Re: Its Offical "787"

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For certification purposes, the 707-100 and -200, the 707-300 and -400, and
the 720/720B are all different aircraft.  They are just derived from each
other

The C135 is Boeing model 717.  The RC135 is 739.

Starting in 1956, Boeing initiated studies on a short haul airliner
designated the 707-020, with a suffix of -1 through -10.  The -5 through -8
were twin engined aircraft seating 74 pax (no pax capacity were stated for
the -7 and -8).  The other 6 were had 4 engines seating 85-87 pax.

In July, 1957, announced plans for the 717, a 4 engined aircraft seating 88
to 130 pax.  In November 1957, announced plans to go ahead with the
aircraft, now redisgnated the 720.

SO, why the 720?  William "Pat" Patterson, United's president, was impressed
with the 707's performance but he felt the aircraft was too narrow.  Boeing
had told him the aircraft could be made longer but not wider.  However, it
was later determined the 707 could be widen.  Patterson liked the 717 but
was concerned his airline's image might suffer after going back to Boeing
after ordering the DC-8.  He wanted a different designation to that it
wouldn't appear he was having second thoughts on the DC-8. He urged Boeing
to change the designation and Boeing wanted a launch customer for the 717 so
they agreed to the change.  Patterson also didn't like the sound of "Seven
One Seven" or "Seven Seventeen."

Other airlines went along with the change of designation.  All airlines
except for 3 carried "Boeing 720" fuselage titles on their aircraft. The
exceptions were American, TWA, and Aer Lingus. American referred to the 720
as "707 Jet Flagship" and the 720B as the "707 Astrojet."  TWA leased four
720B's carried "SuperJet" titles (no "720" designation").  Aer Lingus
carried only "Boeing" on the aircraft with no aircraft model shown.

Sources: Great Airliners Volume 7: Boeing 720 by Jon Proctor (Word Transport
Press)
The Boeing 707, 720 and C-135 by Tony Pither (Air Britain)

I look forward to meeting with you to discuss my qualifications for this
position.

David R
http://home.comcast.net/~damiross/books.html


-----Original Message-----
From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Alireza Alivandivafa
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 14:54
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Subject: Re: Its Offical "787"


In a message dated 1/28/2005 3:19:12 PM Central Standard Time,
damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Not quite true.  There was the 720.  And the succession shown above is not
correct.  The 717 came last.  The first 717 was actually a military version
of the 707. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the 767 saw service before the 757.

The 720 was a version of the 707, just shortened.  It actually had another
name that was 707-XXX but 720 was the one used.  The 717 was indeed the
internal
Boeing name for the KC-135 but they swapped over to using the military
designation (remember, the KC-135 is narrower than the 707).  The 767 did
see
service before the 757, but the 757 was designed first

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