Well, I know someone who was an MX crew chief on the KC-10 who saw nothing but problems and the fighter pilots I know who hate it because it was never as reliable in getting them fuel as the KC-135. The KC-10 was just something to say "look how big we can get one" In a message dated 11/15/2004 9:12:26 PM Central Standard Time, damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The KC-10 is not a needless flop