Re: no traffic rights/airline staff right (was fifth freedom rights)

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...Thanks Al,

As far as I remember, there were only about 8 PAX
onboard. Interesting. Had they been revenue PAX, would
an FA been required! I guess not, PAX are PAX.

Bryant Petitt
Cumming, GA
--- Allan9 <exatc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Bryant
> Normally that flight would have been operated under
> FAR Part 91 rather than
> FAR Part 121 (Normal Air Carrier FAR).  Under FAR
> 121 as I understand it if
> there were more than 25-30 passengers (rev or
> non-rev) flight attendents
> would be required.  It may have been an insurance
> requirement that the
> passengers were asked the question.
> Al
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryant Petitt" <skyshirts@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: no traffic rights/airline staff right
> (was fifth freedom
> rights)
>
>
> > ...This is kinda off the topic, but one time as a
> gate
> > agent for DL, I helped dispatch a Ferry flight
> that
> > had DL non-revs on it (no revenue PAX). No Flight
> > Attendants, but someone had to come on before the
> > flight was dispatched, and as I remember they all
> had
> > to say that they were aware of the Emergency
> > Procedures, etc.
> >
> > I don't know if this followed the rules or not,
> but
> > the plane sure was dispatched without F/A's.
> >
> > Interesting, and that was the only instance I was
> > involved in that particular scenario.....
> >
> > Bryant Petitt
> > Cumming, GA
> >
> > --- Mike Tobin <mtobin@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I thought an airline couldn't even carry
> staff
> > > if they didn't have
> > > > > traffic rights?
> > >
> > > > yes I thinks JAL,KAL  and Singapore have
> flights
> > > NYC to Anchorage
> > > > (ANC)-Tokyo /Singapore/Seoul
> > > > (depending on which airline we are talking
> about
> > > > and I belive all of them have a crew based in
> ANC
> > >
> > > JAL used to have pax flights between NYC and
> Tokyo
> > > that stopped in ANC. No local traffic rights
> between
> > > ANC and JFK, but non-revs could fly it. Great
> > > nonstop service. Now JAL flight numbers 5 and 6
> fly
> > > overhead ANC nonstop between the two bigger
> cities.
> > > Korean at times has had pax flights from ANC to
> the
> > > east or midwest that non-revs could board.
> Singapore
> > > just has freighters through ANC so no pax
> > > opportunities. All 3 have major freighter
> operations
> > > via ANC where crew changes occur, but as far as
> I
> > > know, Singapore doesn't base any in ANC.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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