Re: Biometrics and Airport Security

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I was a participant in the US INSPass program which was hand-biometrics
(not fingerprints) for several years.

A human with a passport swipe could clear you quicker, so it was only
useful when there was a backup of tourists coming out of YVR.

The Canadian CANPASS program is, well, not as good as it could be.

The goal is to allow frequent travelers to be authenticated
'automatically' to provide more time to inspect the more infrequent
travelers. i.e. Inspect more with less $$s.

But yet, they charge money for the CANPASS 'pass.'

You apply via mail and then they call you for an appointment at the
airport to get your picture/fingerprint processed.

This is, in my opinion, STUPID.

One of the main reasons of having a CANPASS (Air) is so you can
minimize your time at the airport. BUT, the CANPASS office is only open
business hours. So frequent travelers, like myself, either have to get
lucky and get an appointment on either side of a flight (I like
red-eyes, and arrive late at night, so unlikely for myself) or waste
numerous hours to comply to THEIR schedule by going to the airport for
that single task.

The old INSPass was much better. You simply showed up, and if your
finger print didn't exist in the FBI computer, you had to wait a few
extra minutes while some agent somewhere in the world made absolutely
sure you were clear, and then they printed your card. You'd grab the US
INS guys some coffee, shoot the bull, and you are on your way. It's one
thing the US INS did better than their Cannuck equivalents.

My opinions only!

Matthew



On 29-Aug-04, at 2:58 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote:

> I participate in the Canpass Air program at Vancouver International
> Airport
> and a scan of my iris allows me to bypass customs inspection.  I've
> never
> had any problems.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael A. Burris
> Sent: August 29, 2004 12:52 PM
> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Biometrics and Airport Security
>
> AIRLINE:
>
> Has anyone had any experience using or being profiled by fingerprint
> scanners or iris-scanning devices at airports?  Do they work as well
> as they
> claim?  Has anyone ever been incorrectly profiled?
>
> I'm writing a story on the subject for an airport security magazine and
> personal experiences would really help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Burris
> Cambridge, Mass / USA
>
>
>
>
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I was a participant in the US INSPass program which was
hand-biometrics (not fingerprints) for several years.


A human with a passport swipe could clear you quicker, so it was only
useful when there was a backup of tourists coming out of YVR.


The Canadian CANPASS program is, well, not as good as it could be.


The goal is to allow frequent travelers to be authenticated
'automatically' to provide more time to inspect the more infrequent
travelers. i.e. Inspect more with less $$s.


But yet, they charge money for the CANPASS 'pass.'


You apply via mail and then they call you for an appointment at the
airport to get your picture/fingerprint processed.


This is, in my opinion, STUPID.


One of the main reasons of having a CANPASS (Air) is so you can
minimize your time at the airport. BUT, the CANPASS office is only
open business hours. So frequent travelers, like myself, either have
to get lucky and get an appointment on either side of a flight (I like
red-eyes, and arrive late at night, so unlikely for myself) or waste
numerous hours to comply to THEIR schedule by going to the airport for
that single task.


The old INSPass was much better. You simply showed up, and if your
finger print didn't exist in the FBI computer, you had to wait a few
extra minutes while some agent somewhere in the world made absolutely
sure you were clear, and then they printed your card. You'd grab the
US INS guys some coffee, shoot the bull, and you are on your way. It's
one thing the US INS did better than their Cannuck equivalents.


My opinions only!


Matthew



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On 29-Aug-04, at 2:58 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote:


<excerpt>I participate in the Canpass Air program at Vancouver
International Airport

and a scan of my iris allows me to bypass customs inspection.  I've
never

had any problems.


Mark


-----Original Message-----

From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of

Michael A. Burris

Sent: August 29, 2004 12:52 PM

To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Biometrics and Airport Security


AIRLINE:


Has anyone had any experience using or being profiled by fingerprint

scanners or iris-scanning devices at airports?  Do they work as well
as they

claim?  Has anyone ever been incorrectly profiled?


I'm writing a story on the subject for an airport security magazine and

personal experiences would really help.


Thanks,


Mike Burris

Cambridge, Mass / USA





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