Al, OK. I was assuming mixed heavy-light departures only; no inter-arrivals. My point on the actual 5 x 747 fueling workload was that it was a long day. - Bob Allan9 wrote: >We're not on the same page. My original question related to cleaning crews, >there make up and what he, the union and the company viewed as the norm. I >used the friend that was a refueler at CLE in the 60's as an example of >actual workload. Assuming no departures between arrivals as you described. >Nearly 30 arrivals an hour on the same runway would be magic. >Al > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "RWM" <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> >To: "The Airline List" <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Allan9" ><exatc@xxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:20 PM >Subject: Re: Speaking of Unions > > > > >>The fueling question was answered -- though you may not have liked the >>answer. >> >>Can take 70-80 minutes to fully fuel a 747 from a pair of trucks, after >>which you return to the farm and refill the trucks. >> >>So, fueling five ships is a day's work. Not very intellectually >>stimulating, maybe, but it is a long shift. >> >>One runway can handle nearly 30 ops/hour even if they are alternating >>heavies and small aircraft. >> >>- RWM >> >>Allan9 wrote: >> >> >> >>>Well no one really answered my question. And heck ORD only has one >>> >>> >runway > > >>>they can use for the long haul B747. Or at least when I was there. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "RWM" <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:45 PM >>>Subject: Re: Speaking of Unions >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Actually, I didn't frame the question, but the scheduling portion of the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>answer is >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>directly on point. Most carriers share their operating schedules (for >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>workforce >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>planning) and daily ops updates (for rapid OSO response) with crew >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>supervisors. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxx >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited.