I am sure the airlines do pad to improve their OTP stats. You lucked = out and the padding wasn't necessary! Mark -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of damiross2@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:53 AM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Memo Pad: On-Time Flights Are Up = Sharply I know that - and the pilots usually give that time. However, with the = 2 AS flights, the gate to gate time was still way less than what was = advertised. David > I believe that schedules are gate to gate times so the extra 25=20 > minutes would be taxi time. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of = > David MR > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:25 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Memo Pad: On-Time Flights Are Up=20 > Sharply > > > What Mark said is true, along with a possible padding of flight times. > > At least one airline is padding its flights. Yes, I only took two=20 > flights on Alaska but both flights left the gate a few minutes early=20 > and arrived early (OAK-SNA). Both times the pilot said the flight=20 > time was about an hour yet the schedule showed about 1 hour 25=20 > minutes. 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