The Bumble Bee does sting: I don't speak for Dennis - he does a good job of that himself, but when I read his post he seemed to be addressing a particular event: the Southwest move into PHL. Dennis is right - US Airways marketing should have seen that coming (ouch!). > Really? One can trace the problems experienced by the airlines over the > past two years to three major (external) forces: terrorism, SARS, and the > economic downturn. Southwest and the rest of the airlines in the industry were also hurt by the events you mention. Look at the sport sponsorships and the Official Airline Status of the Philadelphia 76ers (ouch!), the Philadelphia Flyers (awaah!) and the Philadelphia Phillies (oooh!). Right in U's backyard. The Bumble Bee will be back. Bob Fan of calamine lotion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Schnell" <dks28@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:12 PM Subject: Re: The Bumble Bee Stings > Really? One can trace the problems experienced by the airlines over the > past two years to three major (external) forces: terrorism, SARS, and the > economic downturn. Now just which of those was management supposed to plan > for? Perhaps September 11, the first time an aircraft and ever been > hijacked and flown into a building. That seems like a slightly unreasonable > thing to ask management to anticipate. > > I realize that in your view, Dennis, management can do no right and labor no > wrong, but I think there is a better middle ground than just saying > "management isn't forward looking." > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Allan9 > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:07 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: The Bumble Bee Stings > > Can't argue with that rationale > Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis W Zeuch" <DZTOPS@xxxxxxx> > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: The Bumble Bee Stings > > > > why US Airways was caught off > > >guard > > > > Again really bad management causes so many problems that are blamed on ' > > high wages ' of the workers..these guys are paid millions and their > > only > job is > > to think and plan ahead for the company. > > >