I said you don't have a hub to fly through. I did not say the flights were nonstop. WN's average pax stage length is around 700 miles. In the vast majority of these cases, the flight is either nonstop or 1 stop. Check the flights on American to, say, HOU. In these cases, you would have to connect in DFW or another city (if you get stuck on a code-share flight). On WN, there are several 1 or 2 stop flights. A hub is defined as a bank of flights that arrives at approximately the same time and departs at approximately the same time. By this definition, WN does not hub. They happen to have a lot of flights at a given airport that gives the pax a good connection opportunity. Besides, WN itself says it does not hub but is a point-to-point carrier. David R > At 07:52 PM 12/15/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > >- no hubs - you can fly from a to b without going out of your way through > >a hub > > > I don't know about that. A quick check today on their web site shows an > awful lot of their flights are not non-stop. And that is not just those > starting at Love Field. > > Southwest have as an example 14 flights a day between MDW and LAX. Only 3 > were non-stop. The others going through LAS or PHX. While American have > according to Expedia at least 11 non-stop everyday from ORD to LAX. > > Here's another example. Southwest have as an example 12 flights a day > between LAX and STL. None were non-stop. They all went through either PHX, > MCI or ABQ. The average trip time was about 6.5 hours. While American, > again according to Expedia have at least 10 non-stops everyday from LAX to > STL with an average flight time of 3.5 hours. > > The above examples are admittedly on longer flights, but this " hubless " > system that Southwest claim to have is a myth as far as I'm concerned.