Re: DFW TOWERS- how many? 3 TOWERS.

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Ah, great information from someone who knows.

Jose Prize
Fan of accurate info

In a message dated 12/3/2003 12:26:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ericgr@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

> Subj: Re: DFW TOWERS- how many? 3 TOWERS.
>  Date: 12/3/2003 12:26:33 AM Eastern Standard Time
>  From: <A HREF="mailto:ericgr@xxxxxxxxxxx";>ericgr@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>
>  Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
>  To: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>
>  Sent from the Internet
>
> Bob,
>      Well, you got some interesting responses to your question,  here
> is another one.
> The actual operation at DFW is actually quite simple.   The East Tower is
> located on the east side of the airport and controls traffic on runways
> 17R/35L, 17C/35C, 17L/35R, and 13L/31R.   The West Tower is located on the
> west side of the airport and controls traffic on runways 18R/36L, 18L,36R,
> and 13R/31L.    The Center Tower is used only for the Flight Data
> position.   Both the outboard towers have Local Control and Ground Control
> for their side of the airport.   The center tower just issues the ATIS and
> any weather or Traffic Management reroutes.
>      There really is no coordination between the outboards because of
> the way the automation is set up and how  they determine departure and
> arrival runways for individual aircraft.  Say an a/c parked on the west
> side needs to go to Cleveland.  They call the west side Ground controller
> who clears them to taxi up to the bridge that goes over to the east
> side..  They then cross the bridge and call the east side Ground controller
> who fits them in the departure sequence on that side of the airport.  Same
> happens for a/c parked on the east side going west.
>      As far as arrivals go, the TRACON attempts to land the aircraft on
> the side of the airport that they park on..  If it doesn't work out that
> way, then the process is reversed.  As they clear the runway, the a/c gets
> clearance to taxi to the bridge and them they call the other sides ground
> control and get instructions to their gate area.
>      One other thing to think about, there are actually two additional
> towers at DFW.  Delta and American both have ramp control towers.   They
> 'control' the ramp areas for their respective terminals.  Once you clear
> the taxiway system, you call the ramp tower and get instructions to the
> gate.
>      The hardest positions at DFW are the ground control
> positions.  These can get really crazy during busy times, especially
> because you don't know who the aircraft are, you just yell for the "MD-80
> at spot 42", etc.  They answer you and then you figure out where they are
> going and how to get them there..   Local control is pretty easy,
> relatively speaking.   "Cleared to land, cleared to takeoff, turn left at
> the next high speed and contact ground control", that sort of thing.
>      DFW opened in 1967.
>
> Hope that helps you,
> Eric Grundmann
> Ft. Worth ARTCC
>
> At 01:20 PM 12/2/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >Alan,  Thanks for the reply
> >
> >That being the case, there is total coordination between all 3 towers,  How
> >are aircraft landed and all 3 towers knowing who is doing what?  I am
> >speaking of the many pilots landing there all the time.  I think I'd be
> >pulling  the rest of my hair out if I was a controller.  I was there only
> >once, not long after the airport opened (what year did it open?) and I did
> >not have time to look around.  Other than the obvious problems, are the
> some
> >that other airports do not have?   This is a very interesting subject,
> >Thanks for coming back so fast,   Bob
> >
> >
> >Bob Fletcher
> >Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >MILITARY DESIGN SECTION
> >10th Floor   SW, CUBE  134
> >(916) 557-7235,
> >1325  J  Street, Sacramento,
> >CA. 95814-2922
>

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