I second Liam's notion. The mid-afternoon rush around here is not a bunch of MD80s and A320. It's wide-body heavies all over the place. Cathay's 744s, 346's, China Airlines 744s, AC's A343s/763s, Korean 777s, Singapore, JAL 743s. ACs and United's 737/A320 2pm departures are pip-squeeks in comparison. Matthew On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 06:52 PM, Bryant Petitt wrote: > ...Liam, > >> From out last visit to YVR last Spring, I don't think > there is any "low-end housing" there.....It is > incredible how well-kept and beautiful the Vancouver > area is....Granted we saw small pockets of > trashy-dumpy places, but not on the scale of say ATL > or many. many other cities in the USA. > > Wish more of us in the USA had more pride in where we > live! > > Bryant Petitt > Cumming, GA > Where we have some fantastic upscale developments, and > we have some dumps too! > --- Liam Tully <lrtully@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Narita and Mirabel come to mind as examples of >> "NIMBY'S" in action - interesting how they have >> both evolved. Come to think of it, there are a few >> here in YVR - I think it took about 20 years or so >> to get the North runway up and running, but it was >> worth the wait - except for last thursday, when 08L >> was fogged in and 08R was almost clear - that >> was "fun" to watch and listen to at the midday rush! >> I think I counted 23 lined up for dep. at one >> point... >> Like EWR on a slow day....except these were BIG. >> >> Liam. >> YVR. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bryant Petitt" <skyshirts@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:28 AM >> Subject: Re: Concorde Farewell >> >> >>> ...There are a lot of upscale neighborhoods around >>> Smyrna/Dobbins where the NIMBY's would raise hell >> if >>> any additional traffic were created. >>> >>> Not the same situation 20 or so miles south at >> ATL. >>> There was not much organized opposition as the >> land >>> for the new runway was mixed light >> industrial/office >>> and low-end housing. The people who lived in the >>> affected area were more than happy to get big >> bucks >>> for their property and move elsewhere.... >>> >>> --- Alireza Alivandivafa <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>>> In a message dated 10/3/2003 12:26:11 PM Pacific >>>> Daylight Time, >>>> lrtully@xxxxxxxxx writes: >>>> >>>> << I agree - not a fan of "NIMBY'S". >> >>>> >>>> Absolutely. Environmental regs are great, but >>>> airports now, especially major >>>> international airports, have been there long >> before >>>> the people were. The >>>> airports are the reason houses were built there. >>>> Same reason LAX needs to build >>>> the 5th runway and keep the terminals intact, >> while >>>> building more. Also, if >>>> there was an air force base in Smyrna for years, >>>> what the hell is their problem >>>> with an airport with stage 3 and stage 4 >> airliners? >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product >> search >>> http://shopping.yahoo.com >>> > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com