In a message dated 9/22/2003 2:34:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes: << - 88 pax on a 767 LAX-JFK run? Albeit on a Sunday... I guess when UAL talks about load-factors, and my flights are always stuffed to the rafters, these are the flights that cause the average to be 75%. >> That is bad, but not as bad as you might think. Their 762s (that do a lot of the LAX-JFK) only hold something like 160-165. Less actually than the 752s, because they still fly 3 class