Re: Boeing 717-300X

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One word: Marketing
"Super' makes it sound like a better aircraft

David R
> ....Another thing I have been curious about...
>
> When AA bought the DC-9 'Super' 80 they insist (and to
> this day) refer to it as that rather than an
> MD-80.....Yes, I know I do an AA 'MD-80' t-shirt, and
> it is interesting to note that AA OK'd that rather
> than using the DC-9 'Super 80' moniker which AA is
> evidently fixated with till this day!.....
>
> Anybody got any reasons for this?
>
> Bryant Petitt
> Cumming, GA
>
> --- Matthew Montano <mmontano@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yes.
> >
> > But didn't the Boeing 717 essentially re-use the
> > type certificate for
> > the DC-9-30?  (Sans engines.)
> >
> > Wouldn't a Boeing 717-300X be a reuse of the DC-9-81
> > or -50 certificate.
> >
> > I may be out to lunch here...
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> > On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 12:27  PM,
> > damiross2@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just thinking off the top of my head: It will take
> > time to fully
> > > flight test
> > > the new model - probably at least a 1000 hours,
> > probably more.  It
> > > will take

> > > time to do the FAA/JAA paperwork.  And 2006 is not
> > that far off - just
> > > a tad
> > > over 2 years.
> > > David R
> > >
> > > Wishing they had kept the old name (MD95) or
> > renamed it the 787 but
> > > not the 717!
> > >> It is about time, but one thing I don't get is
> > why it will take them
> > >> until
> > >> 2006
> > >> to get the thing developed and deliver it. All
> > they have to do is to
> > >> add
> > >> sections
> > >> to the body of the aircraft. I am sure those BMWs
> > can produce more
> > >> power
> > >> than they
> > >> do now..
> > >>
> > >> If you look at the -300 version of 757 and -900
> > of 737 I don't think
> > >> it took
> > >> them 3 years to develop those versions.
> > >>
> > >> Am I wrong ?
> > >>
> > >> BAHA
> > >> Fan of B717-300 but why X?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: The Airline List
> > [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > >> Matthew Montano
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:27 AM
> > >> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Boeing 717-300X
> > >>

> > >>
> > >> Didn't see this on the list yet. Nothing about
> > range though.
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >> Boeing plans 130-passenger stretch version of 717
> > regional jet
> > >> airliner
> > >>   12:21 PM EDT Sep 19
> > >>
> > >> EVERETT, Wash. (AP) - The Boeing Co. has
> > developed plans for a=20
> > >> 130-passenger stretch version of its 717, which
> > competes with
> > >> regional=20=
> > >>
> > >> jet airliners made by Bombardier, Embraer and
> > Airbus.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Boeing officials said Thursday the proposed
> > 717-300X, to be
> > >> assembled=20
> > >> in Long Beach, Calif., would be 4=BC metres
> > longer than the 717-200
> > >> and=20=
> > >>
> > >> carry about 20 more passengers.
> > >>
> > >> Boeing has offered the design to members of the
> > 17 airlines in the=20
> > >> worldwide Star Alliance, spokesman Warren Lamb
> > said.
> > >>
> > >> Air Canada, Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines and
> > Scandinavian Airline=20
> > >> System, all members of the alliance, are pursuing
> > a joint purchase
> > >> of=20

> > >> up to 200 jets in the 75- to 125-passenger range.
> > >>
> > >> Potential manufacturers include Boeing, Airbus,
> > Embraer and
> > >> Bombardier=20=
> > >>
> > >> (TSX:BBD.B).
> > >>
> > >> If Boeing gets enough orders, deliveries of the
> > 717-300X would begin
> > >> in=20=
> > >>
> > >> late 2006.
> > >>
> > >> Boeing has been discussing a stretch 717 for some
> > months. AirTran
> > >> of=20
> > >> Orlando, Fla., the top buyer of 717s to date,
> > opted instead for the=20
> > >> 737-700, which has the range to fly
> > cross-continent, Lamb said.
> > >>
> > >> The 717 has a shorter range and is designed for
> > quick turnarounds
> > >> on=20
> > >> high-frequency routes.
> > >>
> > >
> > >> Meanwhile, Boeing is looking to Japan as a major
> > market for its=20
> > >> proposed 7E7 jet.
> > >>
> > >> "We think we have a real winner in this product,"
> > marketing
> > >> director=20
> > >> Randy Tinseth said Friday in Tokyo.
> > >>
> > >> Boeing plans to sell 2,000 to 3,000 of the
> > mid-sized 7E7 Dreamliner=20

> > >> jets in the next 20 years, Tinseth said.
> > >>
> > >> The 7E7, carrying 200 to 250 passengers, will be
> > lighter and more=20
> > >> fuel-efficient than current comparable models. It
> > will have wider=20
> > >> aisles, more cabin humidity and will feel as if
> > passengers are
> > >> flying=20
> > >> at a lower altitude than in other airplanes,
> > according to Boeing.
> > >>
> > >> Suppliers will be announced later this year for
> > the new jet,
> > >> expected=20
> > >> to make its first flight in 2007 and be delivered
> > the following year.
> > >>
> > >> Boeing foresees airplane demand remaining strong
> > over the next 20=20
> > >> years, adding more than 24,000 planes, 18,000 in
> > growth and 6,000
> > >> in=20
> > >> replacement planes.
>
>
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