The standard approach to Kelowna (to the south), doesn't permit much radar visibility until final approach because of the steep and narrow valley walls, so ATC would unlikely be of much assistance until the last minute or so. There was significant smoke in the area, which is the current excuse, BUT this isn't like MIA's new confusing parallel runways. AC should of never sent inexperienced pilots flying from Toronto into Kelowna, in an A319 of all things. My 5 year old son knows the difference when we fly FlightSim2004. Vernon is a 3360' field, elevation 1140, no ILS, only an NDB, runway heading 230 and is practically in a ditch. Kelowna is a 7,300' runway, elevation 1409, ILS and is a significant field, ESPECIALLY in the middle of the day. On Thursday, September 4, 2003, at 12:03 PM, mgreenwood@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > Where was ATC in all of this? Is Kelowna a controlled airport? > Shouldn't they > have noticed that the plane wasn't where it was supposed to be? > > Mark > >