Have a six pack after figuring out all those models for us. It's too much for me to remember in reality, and to have Marketing screw it up even more kind of ticks me off. According to what you wrote below, the ERJ-140RL / EMB-140LR / RJ-140LR is really a EMB-135KL. The Legacy is actually a EMB-135BJ. Damn, they ought to execute all the guys in Marketing for fouling this up royally. It was bad enough for them to call the EMB's ERJ's but then they foul up the numbers too? I wonder what the MP stands for when it represents a EMB-145ER that can be converted into a EMB-145LR? Jose Prize Fan of confusion but not this bad In a message dated 8/15/2003 7:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fubar@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > Subj: Re: An ERJ here, an EMB there.... > Date: 8/15/2003 7:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:fubar@xxxxxxxxxx";>fubar@xxxxxxxxxx</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > Sent from the Internet > > Whooooops....I just noticed that I experienced a transitory state of digital > dislexia regarding EMB-170 family designations... > > Please read as follows: > - EMB-170-100SL > - EMB-175-100SR > > Now it's off for a shave, shower and a very long evening at the pub... > > Cheers > Jackson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackson" <fubar@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: An ERJ here, an EMB there.... > > > >Hi Jose, > >Frankly, it beats me as to why the standard EMB-145 is designated > EMB-145ER. > >I guess that's one question I'll jot down and toss over to the folks over > at > >Embraer next week... > > > >As for the EMB-145ER transformed into an EMB-145LR, logic dictates that > the > >airframe is an EMB-145MP - after all that's what they designate the > >EMB-145ER airframes that leave the production line with the capability of > >being transformed into EMB-145LRs. But I suppose that's another query I > can > >address next week. > > > >David... > >I looked over the DoT-issued EMB-145 Type Certificate (TC T00011AT, dated > >22FEB2001) and it covers the following models: > > - EMB-145 > > - EMB-145ER > > - EMB-145MR (Add another designation to an already long list) > > - EMB-145LR > > - EMB-135ER > > - EMB-135LR > >Bearing in mind that what I have here on file is woefully outdated, I > >downloaded the current version of TC T000111AT (revision 19, dated > >24JAN2003). It includes the versions listed above and the following: > > - EMB-135BJ > > - EMB-135KE > > - EMB-135KL > > - EMB-145XR > >In other words, nothing on the EMB-140. But that TCDS does contain the > >following under Note # 14: > > > >"The Models EMB-145xx and EMB-135xx are often referred to in Embraer > >marketing literature as the "ERJ-145xx", "RJ145xx", "ERJ-135xx" or > "RJ135xx" > >, with the appropriate model (LR, MR, ER,etc.) substituted for the "xx" . > >The Model EMB-135KE is often referred to in Embraer marketing literature > as > >the "EMB-140ER", "ERJ-140ER," or "RJ-140ER". The Model EMB-135KL is often > >referred to in Embraer marketing literature as the "EMB-140LR", > "ERJ-140LR," > >or "RJ-140LR". The model EMB-135BJ is often referred to in Embraer > marketing > >literature as "Legacy". These names are strictly marketing designations, > and > >are not part of the official model designations." > > > >I guess that settles the whole affair, doesn't it? Now let's wait until > the > >EMB-170 family comes along - which by the way already has the following > >designations: > > EMB-170-100SL > > EMB-170-100SR > >It makes the mind boggle as to what will come along over the years... > > > >Cheers > >Jackson > > > > > > > > > >- unless it falls under the designation EMB-135KE or EMB-135KL >