A good ground controller should set up the departures over the same fix with the faster/higher performance aircraft out first. Remember they only need 15 degrees lateral separation initially. This happens and most users don't even know it. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "boblochry" <boblochry@xxxxxxx> To: "Allan9" <exatc@xxxxxxxxxx>; "The Airline List" <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: Re: RJ's and ATC > > Not really. Only slows down the enroute folks > > Wish that were true. I've actually found it more of a problem on departure from > the larger/busier airports. Typically both aircraft must use the same departure > fix. The sluggish performance of the RJ on the fixed departure route traps the > overtaking aircraft behind it. Enroute you usually have some options like a > change of altitude, vectoring or a new routing. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan9" <exatc@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "The Airline List" <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "boblochry" > <boblochry@xxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: RJ's and ATC > > > > Not really. Only slows down the enroute folks > > Al > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "boblochry" <boblochry@xxxxxxx> > > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:01 PM > > Subject: Re: RJ's and ATC > > > > > > > > I understand that many RJ's do not climb well above FL200 > > > > > > Generally true. > > > > > > > Has this raised any problems about en route traffic control? > > > > > > Yes, but ATC can usually adapt. > > > > > > > They must take longer to reach assigned altitudes > > > > > > True, it can slow things down at major airports > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gerard M Foley" <gfoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:27 AM > > > Subject: RJ's and ATC > > > > > > > > > > I understand that many RJ's do not climb well above FL200, and that > > their > > > > maximum altitude it considerably less than their bigger cousins. Has > > this > > > > raised any problems about en route traffic control? They must take > > longer > > > > to reach assigned altitudes, and the altitudes available must be less > > than > > > > with big jets? > > > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > > >