Did he also say the thing needed almost as much runway as a fully loaded 707 going intercontinental? In a message dated 6/30/2003 7:20:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << got my one and only Trident ride from London Heathrow to Paris Orly in August 1968. All I remember of the flight was that the captain announced in advance that the landing would be done completely automatically, and that the Trident had the world's only complete automatic landing system for all weather conditions. The landing was bumpy, but everyone clapped and cheered anyway. >>