All 747's are on the same FAA type certificate so therefore the 744 is not considered a new aircraft but, as Grant mentions, a redesign of an existing model. Same thing holds true for the 737. All models from 100 to 900 are on the same TC. David R > I'm aware of the improvements Boeing made to the 744 but it is not a new > aircraft. It is a partial redesign of an older model. We might just have to > agree to disagree on this one. > > Grant > QF > SYD > > > > At 12:42 AM 24/06/03 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 6/23/2003 4:01:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > >gjmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > ><< I don't consider the B744 a new aircraft. It's a variant of an design > > that's over thirty years old. It may have a new type of wing and new > > engines but it is still essentially a 1960s design. The A380 is a totally > > new aircraft as is the B777 but the B744 definitely is not. >> > > > >The 744 also has new materials making it lighter yet bigger, a 2 person EFIS > >Cockpit and millions of other differences. It is like calling a 737-800 the > >same plane as a stovepipe -100. Not even close, except for the weird rudder > >design. The A380 could be called a big A320 (look at it), considering all the > >commonality that Airbus says they have