In a message dated 6/20/2003 7:42:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gjmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << Because it is. Design on the original B747 started in the 60s. Design on the B744 started about mid 80s >> I am aware of that. What I am saying is that the 744 is not, and that is the design currently in production, and the one that is most in service. I don't see too many 741s in the air right now, especially since Tower went away (though the Japanese airlines still have a few 100 SRs left)