Re: AC's 744s

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The new Airbusses are deferred pending bankruptcy court review.  Briefly there was an A330 on the route while the 747 was out for maintenance but it's back to the 74E.  Apparently the largest contractor for cargo on this flight is Canada Post.  It's daily, so presumably there's freight to fill it.  The Combi has been on the run all through winter too.

Mike Gammon

>
> From: Matthew Montano <mmontano@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:56:06 -0700
> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: AC's 744s
>
> That's right.
>
> I stand corrected.
>
> Belly full?
>
> Are they using the 744 Combi in lieu of the 340s that are delayed from
> Airbus/GECAS/ILFC etc?
>
> Matthew
>
> On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 12:46  PM, Mike Gammon wrote:
>
> > Wrong.  AC's flight 874 from Dorval to Frankfurt is currently a
> > 747-433 Combi.
> >
> > Mike Gammon
> >
> >>
> >> From: Matthew Montano <mmontano@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:24:57 -0700
> >> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: AC's 744s
> >>
> >> --Boundary_(ID_+gC3m5fy+mIxqht68VeBng)
> >> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> >>
> >>  From Statistics Canada:
> >>
> >> Tonnes of cargo
> >>
> >> Vancouver       4,936 out, 3,719 in
> >> Toronto         6,936 out, 9,302 in
> >> Mirabel         2,689 out, 3,257 in
> >>
> >> Dorval , Hamilton, Calgary barely register.
> >>
> >> For Mirabel exports, after the US (24%), a further 25% was to Britain,
> >> 17% to Switzerland.
> >> For Vancouver exports, after the US (21%), Japan and Hong Kong are the
> >> #2 and #3 destinations.
> >> For Toronto exports, the US consumed (31%) , it's all over the place.
> >>
> >> (Of note, by value, it was 40%, 40% and 57% respectively.)
> >>
> >> The Mirabel/Dorval is a North American example of combi's not working.
> >> Mirabel took 20 times the freight. All of Dorval's cargo traffic was
> >> to
> >> or from the US. I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts that there are no 744
> >> combi's operating out of Dorval.
> >>
> >> Just my opinions...
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:55  PM, Michael A. Burris wrote:
> >>
> >>> AIRLINE:
> >>>
> >>> For those in the know, what is Canada's largest cargo
> >>> export and to whom?
> >>>
> >>> Mike Burris
> >>> Cambridge, Mass
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Alireza Alivandivafa <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> In a message dated 6/17/2003 9:11:09 AM Pacific
> >>>> Daylight Time,
> >>>> mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> << Few airlines have routes where they can fill the
> >>>> pax portion of a 744
> >>>>  AND the cargo version of a 744 on a single route.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Considering that AC has A340s, they think they can
> >>>> fill the PAX portion of
> >>>> the 74M, and pretty much anyone can fill that cargo
> >>>> hold from Europe to Canada
> >>>> or the US
> >>>
> >>
> >> --Boundary_(ID_+gC3m5fy+mIxqht68VeBng)
> >> Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII
> >> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> >>
> >> <fontfamily><param>Courier</param>From Statistics Canada:
> >>
> >>
> >> Tonnes of cargo
> >>
> >>
> >> Vancouver       4,936 out, 3,719 in
> >>
> >> Toronto         6,936 out, 9,302 in
> >>
> >> Mirabel         2,689 out, 3,257 in
> >>
> >>
> >> Dorval , Hamilton, Calgary barely register.
> >>
> >>
> >> For Mirabel exports, after the US (24%), a further 25% was to Britain,
> >> 17% to Switzerland.
> >>
> >> For Vancouver exports, after the US (21%), Japan and Hong Kong are the
> >> #2 and #3 destinations.
> >>
> >> For Toronto exports, the US consumed (31%) , it's all over the place.
> >>
> >>
> >> (Of note, by value, it was 40%, 40% and 57% respectively.)
> >>
> >>
> >> The Mirabel/Dorval is a North American example of combi's not working.
> >> Mirabel took 20 times the freight. All of Dorval's cargo traffic was
> >> to or from the US. I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts that there are no
> >> 744 combi's operating out of Dorval.
> >>
> >>
> >> Just my opinions...
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >> </fontfamily>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 04:55  PM, Michael A. Burris wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> <excerpt>AIRLINE:
> >>
> >>
> >> For those in the know, what is Canada's largest cargo
> >>
> >> export and to whom?
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike Burris
> >>
> >> Cambridge, Mass
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Alireza Alivandivafa <<DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> <excerpt>In a message dated 6/17/2003 9:11:09 AM Pacific
> >>
> >> Daylight Time,
> >>
> >> mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> <<<< Few airlines have routes where they can fill the
> >>
> >> pax portion of a 744
> >>
> >>  AND the cargo version of a 744 on a single route.
> >>
> >> <excerpt><excerpt>
> >>
> >> </excerpt></excerpt>
> >>
> >> Considering that AC has A340s, they think they can
> >>
> >> fill the PAX portion of
> >>
> >> the 74M, and pretty much anyone can fill that cargo
> >>
> >> hold from Europe to Canada
> >>
> >> or the US
> >>
> >> </excerpt>
> >>
> >> </excerpt>
> >>
> >> --Boundary_(ID_+gC3m5fy+mIxqht68VeBng)--
> >>
> >
>

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