In a message dated 6/9/2003 1:25:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, damiross2@xxxxxxxxx writes: << They may be fully loaded pax wise but it's doubtful that, with a full pax load, they'd be able to carry a full cargo load. >> This is one thing I agree with David on. The cargo limits are what has kept WN from offering their best fares out of SNA, until recently. They upped the weights recently, especially for incomming flights, so there is more cargo comming in and out