>Even as percentage of total production? Yes. Taking the 11 hull loses from the 767 gives you around 1,25% of total production (according last BHarms census, 885), for the MD11, this percentage is 2,5% (5 losses on a 200 ship production) rgds ____________________________________________________________ Renato Salzinger SBGR/GRU Web:http://www.jetsite.com.br - The best Aviation Website in Brazil Home e-mail: r.salzinger@jetsite.com.br ___________________________________________________________ Vola ut vivas, vive ut voles