Gonna have to say the acronyms RNV and RVSM are foreign to me or I'm having a senior moment. Been gone for awhile. I can remember when the radar scope in the terminal environment was smaller than what you're looking at right now., Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: Re: New system to enhance air traffic, safety > We're saying the same thing, Al. > > The Electra on direct routings matched jet block speeds on V routings. > > Free flight then, now and in the future breaks down as the traffic flow > approaches the terminal area. > > LAHSO is breaking down as small jets requiring full rwy length replace > turboprops. > > RNP, RVSM and similar may add to the toolbox. > > - RWM > > Allan9 wrote: > > > > RWM, > > Perhaps you are aware of something that I'm not. Eastern's shuttle as you > > say of the 60's had "free flight" but remember the majority of domestic > > traffic flows are east-west, west-east. The shuttle was on the perimeter of > > the flow and outside of it. > > Not certain it will reduce number of controllers. If it does it will be so > > negligible that you won't even notice. Free Flight and this may as I said > > get you there faster but at the 33 pacing airports you'll likely hold longer > > or be slowed down earlier. Remember the only common tool an air traffic > > controller has is airspeed. Picture 33 funnels around the country. It's > > only measurable by what comes out the bottom. LAHSO was the only "tool" the > > controller got recently that helped handling traffic. > > > > Al > > > > ----- Or iginal Message ----- > > From: "RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com> > > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:09 AM > > Subject: Re: New system to enhance air traffic, safety > > > > > No, but we'll all have to read the tiny screen instead of the panel, or > > > having eyes outside, and we'll have to learn to type > > > better/faster/cheaper... All of which is slower than issuing and > > > intuitively responding in realtime to verbal command across 8.33 khz > > > frequency spacings. > > > > > > "Free flight" has been around since the 1960's and Eastern Shuttle > > Electras > > > used Sperry "4-D" guidance. It's here now as "fly direct". And both > > break > > > down after top of descent into to the terminal area, as you say. > > > > > > You're not losing anything. But it require fewer controllers to do the > > job. > > > > > > - RWM > > > > > > Allan9 wrote: > > > > > > > > Gosh, I love all this great technology. We will be able to let the > > aircraft > > > > fly closer and where they want (free flight) and all arrive at their > > > > destination at the same time and enter the holding pattern because the > > > > runway acceptance rate will not handle them. Maybe I'm loosing > > something in > > > > the translation. > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Roger James" <ejames@escape.ca> > > > > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:58 AM > > > > Subject: New system to enhance air traffic, safety > > > > > > > > > New system to enhance air traffic, safety > > > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) =97 Federal officials are working on a navigation > > system= > > > > > that=20 > > > > > will let planes fly closer together, prevent crashes into mountains > > > > and,=20 > > > > > perhaps, become part of a system to prevent hijackers from flying > > > > planes=20 > > > > > into buildings or other structures. The Federal Aviation > > Administration=20 > > > > > will establish the automated system at San Francisco International > > > > Airport= > > > > > =20 > > > > > next month, and plans to eventually deploy it at other airports. > > Many=20 > > > > > commercial aircraft already have the equipment required to use the > > > > system.= > > > > > -- > - R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis > Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 > mailto:RWM@RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ >