Re: New system to enhance air traffic, safety

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Gonna have to say the acronyms RNV and RVSM are foreign to me or I'm having
a senior moment.  Been gone for awhile.  I can remember when the radar scope
in the terminal environment was smaller than what you're looking at right
now.,

Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com>
To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: New system to enhance air traffic, safety


> We're saying the same thing, Al.
>
> The Electra on direct routings matched jet block speeds on V routings.
>
> Free flight then, now and in the future breaks down as the traffic flow
> approaches the terminal area.
>
> LAHSO is breaking down as small jets requiring full rwy length replace
> turboprops.
>
> RNP, RVSM and similar may add to the toolbox.
>
> - RWM
>
> Allan9 wrote:
> >
> > RWM,
> > Perhaps you are aware of something that I'm not.  Eastern's shuttle as
you
> > say of the 60's had "free flight" but remember the majority of domestic
> > traffic flows are east-west, west-east.  The shuttle was on the
perimeter of
> > the flow and outside of it.
> > Not certain it will reduce number of controllers. If it does it will be
so
> > negligible that you won't even notice.  Free Flight and this may as I
said
> > get you there faster but at the 33 pacing airports you'll likely hold
longer
> > or be slowed down earlier.  Remember the only common tool an air traffic
> > controller has is airspeed.  Picture 33 funnels around the country.
It's
> > only measurable by what comes out the bottom.  LAHSO was the only "tool"
the
> > controller got recently that helped handling traffic.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > ----- Or iginal Message -----
> > From: "RWM" <RWM@RWMann.com>
> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: New system to enhance air traffic, safety
> >
> > > No, but we'll all have to read the tiny screen instead of the panel,
or
> > > having eyes outside, and we'll have to learn to type
> > > better/faster/cheaper...  All of which is slower than issuing and
> > > intuitively responding in realtime to verbal command across 8.33 khz
> > > frequency spacings.
> > >
> > > "Free flight" has been around since the 1960's and Eastern Shuttle
> > Electras
> > > used Sperry "4-D" guidance.   It's here now as "fly direct".  And both
> > break
> > > down after top of descent into to the terminal area, as you say.
> > >
> > > You're not losing anything.  But it require fewer controllers to do
the
> > job.
> > >
> > > - RWM
> > >
> > > Allan9 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gosh, I love all this great technology.  We will be able to let the
> > aircraft
> > > > fly closer and where they want (free flight) and all arrive at their
> > > > destination at the same time and enter the holding pattern because
the
> > > > runway acceptance rate will not handle them.  Maybe I'm loosing
> > something in
> > > > the translation.
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roger James" <ejames@escape.ca>
> > > > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:58 AM
> > > > Subject: New system to enhance air traffic, safety
> > > >
> > > > > New system to enhance air traffic, safety
> > > > >
> > > > > WASHINGTON (AP) =97 Federal officials are working on a navigation
> > system=
> > > > >  that=20
> > > > > will let planes fly closer together, prevent crashes into
mountains
> > > > and,=20
> > > > > perhaps, become part of a system to prevent hijackers from flying
> > > > planes=20
> > > > > into buildings or other structures. The Federal Aviation
> > Administration=20
> > > > > will establish the automated system at San Francisco International
> > > > Airport=
> > > > > =20
> > > > > next month, and plans to eventually deploy it at other airports.
> > Many=20
> > > > > commercial aircraft already have the equipment required to use the
> > > > system.=
> > >
>
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