Damn...I was so looking forward to booking my favorite seat (38DD) on Hooter's Air, then came news this afternoon that Vanguard doesn't think these guys are serious! Well, duh. But thanks for giving us such great material for the past month..you really "peaked" my imagination with all the wonderful possibilities. For the first time I can remember, grown men would have paid attention to those orange flotation devices in the event of a water evacuation. Sorry to see all the plans go bust! RT Simpson Phoenix