Dont say 'shot' The black helecopters will get you....... -) Dennis ....hehehe they would've got me today at Leuchars Air Show, where the sun shone and the USAF almost outnumbered the Brits! F-15s, a B52, KC135s, C130s, etc etc. For those of you who play golf, Leuchars is an airbase no more than a couple of miles from the home of golf, St Andrew's. Jim