Marcel, I know of FlyAir in Turkey. Who is the second one? Pegasus? FlyAir is nothing but a new company formed by the owners of Anatolia. They owe huge amount of money to EuroControl and German Airport authorities that they cannot serve Germany anymore. BAHA Fan of Pegasus and Sex Express -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of Marcel van den Berg Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:01 PM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Lowcost airlines in Europe Hi, It seems more and more European airlines are starting a lowfare branch. Recently MyTravel Airways introduced MyTravel Lite, Lufthansa and Eurowings are starting Germanwings, Cyprus Airways is starting HellasJet and now TUI (group with Hapag Lloyd, Brittannia and more airlines) is starting Hapag Lloyd Express. In Turkey two airlines starting with domestic services are planned and in Canada two new charterairlines have intentions to start flying. Info on these startups and a new Brazilian cargo airline including some impressions of their liveries can be found on my website http://surf.to/spotter Regards, Marcel