See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47577-2002Aug5.html This is Bob Levey's column today in te Washington Post about National's 30 minute rule: first & last 30 minutes, you stay in your seats. Period. No matter what. Come hell or high water. In some cases both. (Because it can be hell having to wait to use the bathroom). I think we need a meeting of fifty-somethings on blood pressure medication with the people (probably twenty somethings) who wrote that rule. Come, let us reason together, but first, let me go to the bathroom. john -- John F. Kurtzke, C.S.C. Department of Mathematics 278 Buckley Center University of Portland Portland, OR 97203 503-943-7377 kurtzke@up.edu