Does TCAS communicate with ATC? If not, this crash makes it look like it should. What is the sense of a system figuring out what the two planes should do, tell each other, and not tell ATC automatically. john On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Grant McKenzie wrote: > Hi Scotty, > > Long time no natter. > > It's sounding more and more like the Swiss ATC guy screwed up. Or, more > accurately, the system screwed up and the poor sod up the sharp end was > left wearing it. A mate of mine who was over in Geneva for a ATC > conference a couple of years back and was taken to the ATC simulator > which also takes a live feed from Eurocontrol, including the sector in > question and he said it is a hellishly complicated piece of airspace. > > > Grant > SYD > QF > > Scotty wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Grant McKenzie" <grantmckenzie@optushome.com.au> > > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:55 AM > > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Doomed Planes Tried to Avoid Collison > > > > > > > >>When I worked in ATC, a command from the ground was supposed to have > >>priority. I would imagine Bashkirian Airlines (if their chief > >>pilot/regulatory overseer were doing their job properly and, with all > >>due respect to Scotty's passions on the subject of all things Russian, > >>I'm not convinced was a given) would have a compliance instruction > >>written into their operations manuals. > >> > > > > It is written into their manual from what I was told by a Tu-154 navigator. > > KrasAir has it written into their ops manual, and he told me that it appears > > that BAL has it written into theirs as well. This is why I stated that > > Russian officials were 100% correct. > > > > > -- John F. Kurtzke, C.S.C. Department of Mathematics 278 Buckley Center University of Portland Portland, OR 97203 503-943-7377 kurtzke@up.edu