Roger and/or Amanda Thanks for your candid, albeit emotional, opinion. I was hoping, however, for some discourse on whether salaries of non-governmental employees are etched in stone. Is it more financially rewarding for employees to negotiate contracts to ensure the health of the corporation for the employees long term benefit? Are some employees overpaid for their positions? Let me illustrate... do airline companies have to heavily advertise for FAs or does a large queue form for very few positions? In the past there have been literally thousands of applicants for less than a 100 positions. Simply stated in the world of supply and demand, or capitalism, FAs are overpaid. A non-aviation position would be firefighter. Every time a hiring announcement appears for firefirefighters, at least in Southern Calif, applicants exceed positions by 100-1. You could lower their pay as well and you still wouldn't have any shortage of firefighters. We all know that both jobs do not require any formal training or education. I support a strong airline industry as a benefit to the country at large. IMHO salaries paid to airline employees are excessive as are many executives of the same companies. A free marketplace would substantially reduce airline costs, ensure airlines and employees long term health and benefit society as a whole. I am not trying to pick a fight but merely trying to understand why employees won't support paycuts when their company is under duress. Greg -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of Roger & Amanda La France Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 6:05 AM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: United Air flight attendants reject wage cuts Yes you are................ Your OPINION SUCKS!!!! -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Newbold Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:36 AM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: United Air flight attendants reject wage cuts Seems to me the flight attendents may be killing the golden goose. Despite the mayhem caused on Sep 11th, I predict unlicensed flight attendents could quickly be replaced. Unfortunately they are not in the professional league of the pilots and machinists. IMHO the flight attendents, and all other airline groups, should be focusing on the survivability of the airline and preservation of their jobs which may include a 5% pay cut. Frankly I suspected management would ask for 20% to bring their costs down. Am I off base? Greg -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of lafrance@verizon.net Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:02 AM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: United Air flight attendants reject wage cuts United Air flight attendants reject wage cuts Friday June 21, 1:35 PM EDT CHICAGO, June 21 (Reuters) - Union leadership for flight attendants at UAL Corp.'s (UAL) United Airlines has rejected a 5 percent wage cut, as expected, endangering a deal in which the pilots' union accepted lower pay in return for stock options in the struggling airline. In a resolution posted on the Association of Flight Attendants Web site, the union said the proposal is concessionary and "not in the best interest of the flight attendant carrier." A deal with pilots reached earlier in the week to cut wages by 10 percent requires participation of other unions, according to pilot spokesman Steve Derebey. Both machinists and flight attendants have repeatedly said they would not talk to the airline about wage cuts. Roger EWROPS