In a message dated 4/26/02 2:49:55 PM !!!First Boot!!!, exatc@neo.rr.com writes: << But union protection = allows the employee to do most anything. >> Not true Every union contract I have seen or negioated gives very specific rules for repremanding and dismissing a problem employee. Not that difficult. Usually 1 or 2 documented verbal repremands, then 1-2 written repremands and then OUT.This seems fair. Union contract only protects workers from some idiot manager who doesnt like your looks, personality or opinions and just plain want you gone. Dennis