Mark, I have no desire to enter a pissing contest with you or anyone else about this, but since you took the liberty to message this here to the list and to me personally, first I think you meant to say 'ethical' (not ethnic) travel agency...and, Secondly, I never engaged in the kick-back game nor did any of my friends who were also owners. We knew of agencies that did, but we had staff and other overhead concerns. In any business is never good policy 'do' everything that everybody else does. We all know some ethical car mechanics (they may be out-numbered by the antithetical), and airline service we know that all of them are not mediocre. I took an Eurowings flight in the summer of 2000, before push back, the FA kindly instructed a gentleman that he was sitting in a seat (that I requested remain empty...they asked me at check -in) that was blocked. I didn't rat the guy out...but that was their fastidiousness at work. The bottom line is this not all airlines are crappy and they all can't be Singapore Airlines either...the reason, it's about separating yourself from the pack. I don't believe for a minute that all corporate accounts demand kick-backs (nor are they jizz-bags), and I do not believe that all agencies obliged them. I may not know what I'm talking about according to you...but I do know this, the head of studio cared about concorde and first class specific seats (for themselves and the other above the line folks) that limos/driver be shit-sharp and on time, that Five-star hotels be impeccable, after all they were paying rack expected every cent of it to be represented in their stays (And the request didn't end here). They could give a rat's ass about any kind of rebate. They expected (and still do) that an agent always be at the top of his/her game in making sure all this came together...fashionably and seamless. And if there was a delay or cancellation...there'd better be a plan B, C and a D all at the ready! And personally I don't think the studios are the only corporations with such high standards!...But then again..maybe I don't know what I'm talking about...... Greg