Re: Airline Travel Agent Commissions

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Greg, you don't know what you are talking about.  There isn't a single ethnic
agency in the world that didn't kick back commission, which forced the rest of us to do
it to be competitive.

Mark

Greg Bredell wrote:

> Not entirely true. The only travel agents engaged in 'commission kick-backs' are
> are your larger corporate travel agencies. They do this in an endless game of
> one-ups-manships against each other to retain corporate clients.
>     Ironically and unfortunately, these very same conglomerate corporate jizzbags
> are the one and very same who will be exempt or insulated from airline-commission
> cuts because airlines worship their corporate generated dollars. So it is the 'mom
> & pop' or corner store travel agencies (the majority of agencies) that wind up
> getting screwed. They are now, nor have they ever been, financially dexterous to
> play the kick-back game. But they are unequivocally the ones who will suffer
> greatly from salvo from the majors.
>     If they corporate agencies are smart...they too will see the writing on the
> wall...that their number is about to be called. For as soon as the major carriers
> devise a strategy to supplant the 'furtive deals' they currently have in place. The
> not-too-distant future will come knocking and delivering some seriously bad news!
> And deservingly so, because of their own elite status they refused to standby and
> unite with their smaller and more vulnerable counterparts.
>
> Greg
>
> Mark Greenwood wrote:
>
> > The reason the airlines started capping commissions is because travel agents
> > were giving most of it away in the form of kickbacks to clients.  The airlines
> > finally woke up and realized that if we were giving it away, we obviously didn't
> > need it.
> >
> > We have no one but ourselves to blame for commission cuts
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Roger Chung-Wee wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:31:15 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > Across the board and unilaterally, all travel
> > > >agents in the US and Canada should completely shut down for a single week.=
> > >  The
> > > >majors would be swamped and beleaguered in such a way that their
> > > >passenger/customer satisfactory levels would would sink to abysmal and
> > > >vitually irreversible depths! There's no way in a weeks time they would be
> > > >able to handle such devastation.  I say Canada and the US because the majo=
> > > rs
> > > >dare not apply this practice in lesser regulated countries around the
> > > >globe...visit an airline counter in one of these countries and you'll
> > > >understand why.
> > >
> > > The main reason for airline commission capping and cutting in certain
> > > markets is tied in with where the airlines are strong. So, the US
> > > carriers have axed base commissions in the US where they have their
> > > bases but dare not do so abroad for fear of their limited business
> > > there virtually disappearing. And just look at the UK: the dominant
> > > carrier is BA, which has recently cut its payments to agents by over
> > > 58 percent for UK and domestic bookings. So, the agent now gets
> > > GBP2.50/USD3.56 for a one-way sector, double for a return. As it costs
> > > about GBP20/USD28.50 to ticket a booking, the only way for an agent to
> > > make money is to either switch-sell to another airline which pays more
> > > or to charge a service fee for a BA booking.
> > >
> > > A lot of agents are now switch-selling away from BA, but I would think
> > > that success is patchy because alternatives are not always available.
> > >
> > > Now, quite apart from major carriers effectively imposing a price rise
> > > in their dominant markets, there is the issue that independent travel
> > > advice is going to get tougher to obtain. In the days when airlines
> > > paid agents the IATA-recommended rate of nine percent commission,
> > > there was a chance of the public getting unbiased advice from agents.
> > > The future is that agents will recommend airlines with whom they have
> > > deals, or not recommend airlines who fail to pay them enough for doing
> > > work on their behalf. This may not be a concern to the learned members
> > > of this list, but the fact is that the vast majority of people know
> > > very little of the airline business, but will find themselves steered
> > > even morer in a direction which suits the airlines and agents.
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