Lets tell it like it is -- airline safety is no better now than pre 9/11. The only real difference is now, if you stand up in a plane and say something in Arabic or do anything that might be perceived as a threat, the other people around you will kill you. That is the only security you have. If you have air rage, there is no doubt you will be attacked. This is my experience with 10 flights since Jan 1 this year. -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of B787300@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:14 AM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: In defence of FF We've all heard plenty of horror tales like that and the commie a-holes out west who tried to keep Joe Foss's Medal of Honor and caused him to miss his flight. Now the federal government will decide how many scanning machines and how much manpower will be in place. That's a really scary thought because airlines could buy additional equipment and hire additional people to get people onto their flights in a reasonable amount of time and I just don't see the feds as being fast to react if they react at all. Certain airlines and airports can really get screwed by the lack of equipment and manpower, especially those airports where interior space isn't available for expansion of the screening areas. Did airline "X" contribute to the wrong political party or candidates during the last election? Oh, sorry about that..........your additional equipment and manpower will be here in 2005. This is going to evolve into a situation similar to where communities, airports and airlines had to lobby the feds (U. S. Reps, Senators, heads of agencies, etc.) constantly to gain more manpower and equipment to get more USDA, INS and Customs inspectors at international airports. The wait to clear Immigrations and Customs at MIA used to be 2, 3 and 4 hours many years ago because there weren't enough INS and Customs inspectors on duty during peak times and it took years of lobbying to gain the additional inspectors. Some airports will gain, some will remain the same, and some will lose. Like you say, the airlines are going to lose a lot of premium business because of the inconvenience and additional time involved to take a flight. Biz jet rentals, partial ownerships and outright sales should boom, along with driving by car on relatively short trips. Jose Prize Fan of sanity In a message dated 2/21/2002 8:51:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, Peter.Schneider@elekta.com writes: > Subj:In defence of FF > Date:2/21/2002 8:51:02 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:Peter.Schneider@elekta.com";>Peter.Schneider@elekta.com</A> > Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU";>AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU";>AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU</A> > Sent from the Internet > > I am a DL gold FF not because I'm a "High Roller" or I fly up front all > the time, but because of sheer number of flights taken. Usually stuck in > the back somewhere. There is a big difference between the leisure > traveller and business traveller. It has almost reached the point where > the inconvenience in not worth it anymore. It's a sad sight when some > eighty year old woman in a wheel chair has to have a shoes taken off so > they can be scanned. > > Peter Schneider > ATL >