The AFP advises that gov plans are to beat us down until we get use to it so we gladly submit to a national fast-processing ID card. Later it will be discovered that it can be compromised, so we will be pleased to submit to eventual chips under the skin as overall ID. Later citizens will discover it becomes an eventual mass gov control over us. Freedoms terminated. Give and take, all in time to come. ----- Original Message ----- From: www.joepries.com <airlinephoto@yahoo.com> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Sky-1] Security & Freedom (was Free background check -do it!) > Hi Greg, > I dont know how far is too far and how much more security harms the industry, but personally speaking only, i'll submit to whatever im asked to in order to get on a flight. Also i dont have the option of "not flying since 9/11"- i have to be in certain places at certain times and taking a cruiseline to Germany via the Atlantic to the U.K. and then train is not gonna work, neither is driving down to florida round trip from NYC with my wife and 7 month old. > Joe > Greg Newbold <pnewbold@san.rr.com> wrote: Joe and List, > > We shouldn't over-react and must maintain some balance between security > and the traveling public before we kill the airlines, not to mention the > taxpayers. You can provide suppressive levels of security but then you drive > business away. I flew 90K paid miles last year before 9-11 and haven't flown > a mile since. I assure you I am only mildly concerned with terrorism, (I'm > still more conccerned about being killed in a car crash on the way to the > airport), but will not stand in a line for hours for any reason. > The balance has swung against the passenger and thus the airlines have lost > my business for the short term until the government can solve the technology > issues and speed up the process. > An interim solution? Place more security staff on site. We all know long > lines are caused by staff shortfalls rather than security requirements. An > example. If you have 100 passengers and 10 XRay machines, 100 passengers and > 10 shoe-testers, etc the line will move quite rapidly with 2 minutes per > passenger will cost the passenger a maximum wait of 20 minutes. > As the infamous Army Major said about MyTho during the VietNam war... "It > was necessary to destroy the town in order to save it" and I hope we won't > do the same to air travel. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of > www.joepries.com > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:36 AM > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: Free background check -do it! > > > EXCELLENT. As an American, an American cognizant of the fact that the > possibility of an airplane being taken over and slammed into a reactor > somewhere on U.S. soil may be in the cards for us, im for whatever measures > the government sees fit- they wanna strip me to my boxers in a side room- do > it, they wanna check my shoes- do it- they wanna look into my background and > see where ive been- do it, they wanna take a sample of my toothpaste to make > sure theres no C4 in the tube- do it. You wanna give me a national identity > card to carry with me at all times- do it. People are out there trying to > kill us- us Americans- us christians, jews, blacks, lationos, chinese, > muslims- it doesnt matter- if you live in america youre game. > Bring it on, im willing to wait longer to board my flight to feel safe with > my wife and baby and fellow americans on board. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > SkyOne--The Airline News Channel > To Post message: Skyone@yahoogroups.com > To Subscribe: Skyone-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > To Unsubscribe: Skyone-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: Skyone-owner@yahoogroups.com > Skyone URL: > http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/Skyone > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography > Serving the airline industry with quality photography > AOL IM AIRLINE72 > http://www.joepries.com > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! >