Hi all, Have just read it all and have got to say this is where the US lags behind Europe, the UK in particular. The airline I work for has been doing all of this for several years now on all flights ex the UK from ATR-42 to 747 aircraft size. It does cause a problem when it goes wrong but that is not very often. Having said that as Walter just stated I wouldn't like to be on duty on Friday! All the best Dave