In a message dated 1/13/02 11:28:48 PM !!!First Boot!!!, WaterskiPilot@aol.com writes: << Just because you have a union doesn't mean that the company won't do these things anyway, >> Yeah but at least you're not standing alone---they have a hard time screwing you without good reason (unless you do something stupid, youre usually safe) Also attend the union meetings and vote out the lazy bastards who wont work for you-you pay the bills so scream loud. Most union officers I've known have been great idealists but there are certainly a bunch of rotten apples like everywhere else. Dennis.