In a message dated 1/12/02 11:58:30 AM Central Standard Time, DZTOPS@aol.com writes: > Usually the company launches a huge dis information campagne coupled with > threats and a few key firings and demotions and gets what they want. > Absolute military type control.... > Dennis > Just because you have a union doesn't mean that the company won't do these things anyway, I have seen it happen, right down to 1/2 retro pay for the person when they were rehired. Jim Proud to be an American, Jim Hann Waterski J-41 Captain STL