Walter, You are exactly right.... In Atlanta, it is a completely different situation from many other major airports because of the efficient way it is laid out. There is never any great delay on the ramp between the concourses, due the the width and '4-lane' set-up. The delays start only when you get to the parallel taxiways... I don't know the reasons why aircraft are assigned North or South departures, but gate location certainly has nothing to do with it.... Bryant Petitt Cumming, GA --- W Wilson <wlw-jr@att.net> wrote: > LOL..I wouldn't say all and never cross....With ATL > this is not > true..to/from points north ...they do use the south > complex runways. (in my > case DCA/BWI/IAD) And from points south, I have > landed many times on the > nouth complex. (looking at my logs, 12 of my last > 20 commercial flights > into/out of ATL show me landing and/or departing on > the opposite complex.) > This is interesting because one would think this > would be an airport where > the system would be untilized to the max. I first > found this out in the > early 80s when ramp control cleared aircraft to push > "tail south" out of the > gate for a south departure and "tail north" for a > north departure. I recall > mentioning to my father who was with me something to > the effect that this > makes no sense. > > Walter > DCA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Montano" <mmontano@direct.ca> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 02:33 > Subject: Re: Lax south runways can they handle a > 747? > > > > All airports with multiple simultaneous active > runways do the same > > thing. > > > > ATL's parallel runways make it easy to picture. > Anything to/from the > > north'ish uses the northern pair and visa-versa > for the south. The paths > > never cross. > > > > ORD's plan is decidedly more complex. I've done a > ORD-YVR departing off > > of 4L with a heading of 090 due to winds. We > reached 15,000 ft about 10 > > minutes still going straight east. Overhead on > channel 9 was even the > > pilot reminding ATC that we were heading to > *Vancouver*. > > > > YYZ's archaic runway layout will make it feel like > you are driving half > > way to your destination if you are flying AC and > departures are to the > > east-north-east. > > > > Amazingly these taxi-times based on active runway > selections are built > > into the scheduled times that you'll find on a > Flight Status website. > > > > Matthew > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The Airline List > [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of > > Mark Greenwood > > Sent: January 3, 2002 10:00 PM > > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > > Subject: Re: Lax south runways can they handle a > 747? > > > > > > I believe the choice of runway for departure and > arrival is determined > > by the origin/destination of the aircraft. Every > time I have flown to > > the South Pacific ex LAX we have always departed > from and arrived back > > on the south runways. Flight to Asia and Europe > have always arrived and > > departed on the north runways. > > > > Mark > > > > W Wilson wrote: > > > > > Absolutely....7R/25L is actually longer than the > other parallel on the > > > > > southside at 11,096 feet. (the inner south > runway 7L/25R is 12,091 > > > feet). Your concern is notable however. It's > more based on procedure > > > at airports with two sets of parallels on each > side of the airport. > > > Normal ops include allowing aircraft to depart > on the inner parallels > > > while landing (usually) on the outer parallels > allowing greater > > > separation on approach. So for whatever > reason..."they" decided to > > > depart from 25L. It could also be to expedite > the departure of > > > traffic behing the KAL 747, so they moved it on > over to the other side > > > > > to make room, amongst a couple more operational > considerations. > > > > > [snip] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/