LOL..I wouldn't say all and never cross....With ATL this is not true..to/from points north ...they do use the south complex runways. (in my case DCA/BWI/IAD) And from points south, I have landed many times on the nouth complex. (looking at my logs, 12 of my last 20 commercial flights into/out of ATL show me landing and/or departing on the opposite complex.) This is interesting because one would think this would be an airport where the system would be untilized to the max. I first found this out in the early 80s when ramp control cleared aircraft to push "tail south" out of the gate for a south departure and "tail north" for a north departure. I recall mentioning to my father who was with me something to the effect that this makes no sense. Walter DCA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Montano" <mmontano@direct.ca> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 02:33 Subject: Re: Lax south runways can they handle a 747? > All airports with multiple simultaneous active runways do the same > thing. > > ATL's parallel runways make it easy to picture. Anything to/from the > north'ish uses the northern pair and visa-versa for the south. The paths > never cross. > > ORD's plan is decidedly more complex. I've done a ORD-YVR departing off > of 4L with a heading of 090 due to winds. We reached 15,000 ft about 10 > minutes still going straight east. Overhead on channel 9 was even the > pilot reminding ATC that we were heading to *Vancouver*. > > YYZ's archaic runway layout will make it feel like you are driving half > way to your destination if you are flying AC and departures are to the > east-north-east. > > Amazingly these taxi-times based on active runway selections are built > into the scheduled times that you'll find on a Flight Status website. > > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of > Mark Greenwood > Sent: January 3, 2002 10:00 PM > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: Lax south runways can they handle a 747? > > > I believe the choice of runway for departure and arrival is determined > by the origin/destination of the aircraft. Every time I have flown to > the South Pacific ex LAX we have always departed from and arrived back > on the south runways. Flight to Asia and Europe have always arrived and > departed on the north runways. > > Mark > > W Wilson wrote: > > > Absolutely....7R/25L is actually longer than the other parallel on the > > > southside at 11,096 feet. (the inner south runway 7L/25R is 12,091 > > feet). Your concern is notable however. It's more based on procedure > > at airports with two sets of parallels on each side of the airport. > > Normal ops include allowing aircraft to depart on the inner parallels > > while landing (usually) on the outer parallels allowing greater > > separation on approach. So for whatever reason..."they" decided to > > depart from 25L. It could also be to expedite the departure of > > traffic behing the KAL 747, so they moved it on over to the other side > > > to make room, amongst a couple more operational considerations. > > > [snip] >