Thats what im talking about Baha- i too left FRA in nov after the slide convention and the sec person that sees you before you even check in asked where i stayed, why, with who, purpose of my trip and some other questions i forgot. i also went through 2 metal detectors. The case of this guy here though- number one is 0 baggage- right there and then the sec people should have been extra super sensitive to him- they may not have found the shoe thing on him but with enough scrutiny he may have started to sweat- shown signs of "well gee they may be on to me" -anything- that can help avoid this type of situation. Bahadir Acuner <bahadiracuner@yahoo.com> wrote: As you put it Joe, today's headlines might have been totally different if an F/A didn't do his/her job perfectly. The thing that makes me wonder how this guy got through the security in Paris. If you are a foreign national coming to US your visa numbers are entered in to the computer at the time of security check at your departure point. If this guys passport was bogus, so was his US visa. This should have been caught in Paris. I am surprised that it wasn't. Let me also add few more points as a person who went through "intensive" security control in FRA last week. The security control is still the same. You just go through more of it instead of 1 - 2 times. They ask you the same stupid questions. The regular "have you packed your bags yourself?" stuff. Going through the metal detectors 3 times instead of one will add only marginal safety. I am wondering if this guy had a one way ticket. He might have been carrying a carry on, posing as a businessman. Good security personnel would scrutinize his purpose of travel and probably raise some red flags about him. I just hope this was a single incidence and I am thankful that we caught this bastard on time. BAHA -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU]On Behalf Of www.joepries.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:37 PM To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU Subject: Re: comment on AA today I hear you Lee- but the fact still stands that after 9/11 if you have a guy who is going intl and he has 0 baggage- you need to scrutinize him el al style- if the right security guy knew he had 0 baggage and they really looked at his b.s. fake passport, they may have gotten more clues or dug deeper- but no- someone dropped the ball- either with the fake passport not having been caught and the fact that he has 0 luggage- that alone is huge. D Lee Provo JR wrote: True Joe, but I am not sure if the French has been as security-conscious as us here in Canada and the US. Indeed he was very clever using improvised footwear. It remains to be seen (even in North America) if our sniffer dogs can sniff explosives at security, and if x-rays can scan our entire bodies for foreign objects. We were lucky this time Joe, I agree dlp At 07:16 PM 12/22/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Lord help us if todays news was "AA 763 goes down in the Atlantic 200 >miles east Nova Scotia enroute paris-miami" > >This SOB got on an international flight with 0 baggage (according to news) >-this should have been a red flag- after 9/11 this is unacceptable as far >as im concerned. I'm livid, absolutely burning up over this. > > > > >Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography >Serving the airline industry with quality photography >AOL IM AIRLINE72 >http://www.joepries.com > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. D Lee Provo JR Director Charter Express at Travel Masters West Broadway Direct line 604 659 4172, Toll Free N. America 1 888 683 9933 Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography Serving the airline industry with quality photography AOL IM AIRLINE72 http://www.joepries.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. Joe Pries Commercial Aviation Photography Serving the airline industry with quality photography AOL IM AIRLINE72 http://www.joepries.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings.