Nost of your technical points (not quoted here) have been addressed by Jay, and I think most of them are non-issues (meaning the feature you want is actually present). I'm going to address something else. On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 02:17:14PM +0100, Thomas Hartwig wrote: > I know these ones have discussed already some times, but what me makes > angry are the answers of the developers (very simplified): > > - This feature would break the system of the user. > - Why should a user want to use this, since he has not written linux. I'm not sure I fully understand your point (there may be language issues, so forgive me if I misunderstand you) but I think I know what you mean. The authors of yum (mostly Seth, but I and most of the rest fully support him) have deliberately chosen a design philosophy which encourages clean, safe management. There are very few "override" options and very few ways to work around problems elsewhere (like packaging problems or repo problems). This encourages power users to do it the "right way" and it helps keep novices from getting into trouble. In the days before yum and apt were hot on the rpm scene, people instlled by rpm directly. It was very very common to see on mailing lists and irc channels, that at the first sign of trouble, some know-it-all would say "just do 'rpm --force' or 'rpm --no-deps'", leading people into untold badness. We don't do that. You're welcome to disagree with this philosophy, and I'm very sorry if you find it insulting. You really shouldn't. Yum utils and yum plugins allow to anything you want, really. Anything goes in a plugin or util. If yum (or anyone else) feels like yum is pair of blunt-tipped plastic scissors, well, you're probably right. Feel free to use a razor blade if you wish, or add on the whirring-saw-blade-of-death attachment from yum-utils or -plugins. -Michael -- Michael D. Stenner mstenner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ECE Department and Optical Sciences Center 520-626-1619 University of Arizona ECE 524G _______________________________________________ Yum mailing list Yum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum