hi steven, 1) sorry, if i conveyed that i had a "concern" with people listing their repositories in the /etc/yum.conf file (instead of in separate .repo files in /etc/yum.repos.d/), then i didn't mean to- my mistake. actually, i don't really care how other people do it (and i *know* they don't care whether i care :P ) .. for me, personally, i just use the separate .repo file method because it is easier to add/edit/delete repositories that way (and the /etc/yum.conf file i just leave pristine as the .rpm installed it, or updated it). also, it's easier (for me) when publishing my own repository, to document how to use my repository by just providing users with a .repo file to dump into their /etc/yum.repos.d/ directory, and it's done (instead of telling them to edit the yum.conf file manually). but that's all just idiosyncratic personal preference.. :/ my main concern was just to mention the up2date bug which happens if you are running using the .repo file method and depending only on the up2date/rhn-applet alert icon (not yum itself) to update. 2) as far as crossover, much like garrick, i just figure out the packages i want from the 3rd-party repositories, and use includepkgs= and exclude=. for instance, i use the 'dries' repository to get pine for my fedora box. so here is my /etc/yum.repos.d/dries.repo file: ---------------------------------------------------------------- [dries] name=Extra Fedora rpms dries - $releasever - $basearch baseurl=http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/dries.ulyssis.org/fedora/linux/$releasever/$basearch/dries/RPMS/ includepkgs=pine enabled=1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- and in all my other .repo files i added the following line: ---------------------------------------------------------------- ... ... exclude=pine ---------------------------------------------------------------- it does get a little more complicated when it comes to dependencies for these third party packages, because i have to add those in too to my includepkgs= and exclude= lines.. but anyway, that's how i manage it at least.. anyway, not much of an answer, but i hope that it helps.. --jeff