Somewhat along these lines, I think that now that now that yum is included in Fedora, we're going to see a lot more everyday users - not just us 'leet' sysadmins. So... coming from a guy who has only glanced over the HOWTO (liked what I read) - maybe it should be tailored for, or have a section for 'normal' people (not to say that we aren't !) Did that inane rambling make any sense? e r i k w i l l i a m s o n erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx system admin . department of computer science . university of calgary