On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-07 at 17:28, Christopher C. Weis wrote: > > 2) The ability to download, but not install, RPMs, using Yum. > > To throw my $0.02 out there for the heck of it. > > I think this is an option that has very little use. FTP clients, web > browsers, and mirroring programs all exist for a reason. I have yet to > see a convincingly good reason as to why a package updater should > replicate this functionality. > > I've heard a few reasons, and all of them seem ... questionable, at > least to me. Here's the sample of the ones I remember: > 1) "I want to evaluate the package before I install it" -- I fail to see > how having a binary package can help with that. Downloading the src.rpm > and diffing the contents, sure. But not the binary RPM. Changelogs > don't nearly have the information you want here. > 2) "I want to test it on another box first" -- Why not use yum on the > other box and download it and test it there. > 3) "I don't trust the code which installs packages" -- Then stop using > it. > 4) "Other programs that update packages have it" -- Some of them have > also corrupted rpmdbs in the past, that doesn't mean it's a good idea ;) For my 2 pence worth I'll add a 5) With a large group of machines I want to be able to randomise the download of packages overnight and actually do the upgrade in one go in a small time period when I am at work and around to deal with the consequences. My ideal would be a yum -d update which would just download the packages required for an update. and a yum clean oldpackages that would delete rpms from the cache that were no longer needed for an update. With this I have on the local filesystem system all the packages I need to run the actuall update which will now be a very quick and uniform operation. Steve > > Cheers, > > Jeremy > > _______________________________________________ > Yum mailing list > Yum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum > -- Steve Traylen s.traylen@xxxxxxxx http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/