Wait a minute... If only one of those are installed -- presumably that's what the mutual "obsoletes" are intended to mean -- and "yum update" just updates the packages that are currently installed, then what's the problem? How will yum ever see that the other one obsoletes the one that is installed? It's shouldn't be looking there! If you've got both of them installed at once, then you *have* got a problem. But an obsoletes loop is only the smallest part of your problem -- at least presuming that the whole thing isn't just mind-games on the part of the package authors. What am I missing? Rick seth vidal wrote: > > > So is the only difference with update and upgrade that upgrade checks > > the obsoletes and update does not? I should use upgrade always instead > > of update? What harm is there to check obsoletes -- why does not update > > do it? > > > > zebra and gated - among other ones. > > zebra obsoletes gated > gated obsoletes zebra > > if you have one installed and obsoletes are always consulted then they > will replace one another, back and forth, every time you run yum. > > Ditto with apt, in fact. > > The only reason up2date doesn't hit this problem is b/c they break the > obsoleting loop intentionally on the server side. > > -sv > > _______________________________________________ > Yum mailing list > Yum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum