Hi! I just bumped into Yum and have been very happy with it other than one minor little detail ... :) During the nightly cron job, I don't have any clue whether or not anything happened. In the case where some headers were downloaded or something, that's no biggie but if some actual packages were downloaded and installed, I'd like to know about it. For the time being, I've got RedHat's up2date running on a shiny-new RedHat 9 server and am receiving errata from their service and (without logging onto the box) don't know if yum has already updated the packages. It's not a huge deal, and I could probably work around it with another cron job that does an rpm -qa and diffs it with last night's run, but from reading the archives, it seems that Seth wants to insulate people from rpm. ;) -- James