(preferrably don't top-post on technical lists) On Wed, Apr 05, 2023 at 07:44:21 +0200, André Malm wrote: > The reason given is shut off (crashed). > > So something virsh backup-begin does is causing he guest to crash? The backup operation is quite complex so it is possible. Please have a look into /var/log/libvirt/qemu/$VMNAME.log to see whether qemu logged something like an assertion failure before crashing. Additionally you can have a look into 'coredumpctl' whether there are any recorded crashes of 'qemu-system-x86_64' and also possibly collect the backtrace. Also make sure to try updating the qemu package and see whether the bug reproduces. If yes, please collect the stack/back-trace, versions of qemu and libvirt, the contents of the VM log file and also ideally configure libvirt for debug logging and collect the debug log as well: https://www.libvirt.org/kbase/debuglogs.html > > Den 2023-04-04 kl. 16:58, skrev Peter Krempa: > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 16:28:18 +0200, André Malm wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > For some vms the virsh backup-begin sometimes shuts off the vm and returns > > > "error: operation failed: domain is not running" although it was clearly in > > > state running (or paused). > > > > > > Is the idea that you should guest-fsfreeze-freeze / virsh suspend before > > > virsh backup-begin? I have tried with both with the same results. > > Freezing the guest filesystems is a good idea to increase the data > > consistency of the backup, but is not necessary. Nor it should have any > > influence on the lifecycle of the VM. > > > > > What could be causing the machine to shut off? > > The VM most likely crashed, or was turned off in a different way. > > > > Try running > > > > virsh domstate --reason $VMNAME > > > > to see what the reason for the current state is. > > >