Re: NTP traffic blocked

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hello;

Am 2017-08-22 20:01, schrieb Sinan Polat:
I have multiple VM's on the same KVM host. One of the VM's is running
NTP. All VM's can reach eachother, no firewall in between. But the
problem is, the VM's cannot communicate over port 123/udp to the NTP
VM.

Network: 172.24.100.0/22

KVM: 172.24.101.50

VM ntp: 172.24.102.10

VM foo: 172.24.102.20

1. On the NTP server, listen for any incoming packets from VM foo on
port 123:

[ntp ~]# tcpdump -i any host 172.24.102.20 and port 123 -n

2. Execute the following on server foo. Since server ntp is listening
with tcpdump, packets should be visible in tcpdump.

[foo ~]# ntpdate 172.24.102.10

This is failing:

ntpdate[30443]: no server suitable for synchronization found

No packets are coming in to the ntp server, tcpdump is just blank.
Weird.

To troubleshoot further, start over and do the following:

[ntp ~]# tcpdump -i any host 172.24.102.20 and port 123 -n ## Listen
for packets filtering host 172.24.102.20 and port 123

[foo ~]# tcpdump -i any host 172.24.102.10 and port 123 -n ## Listen
for packets filtering host 172.24.102.10 and port 123

While both tcpdumps are running, execute the following:

[foo ~]# ntpdate 172.24.102.10

Now, on the tcpdump of VM foo, you will see outgoing packets:

19:45:26.644630 IP 172.24.102.20.ntp > 172.24.102.10.ntp: NTPv4,
Client, length 48

As you can see, packets are exiting the server, but there is no
response.

And the tcpdump of the ntp server is still empty, it doesn't receive
the packets (so, it won't reply). But why?

Lets troubleshoot further and run ntpdate in debugging mode:

[foo ~]# ntpdate -dv 172.24.102.10

22 Aug 19:51:23 ntpdate[30465]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Mar  1
09:00:52 UTC 2017 (1)

Looking for host 172.24.102.10 and service ntp

host found : some-host.com

transmit(172.24.102.10)

receive(172.24.102.10)

transmit(172.24.102.10)

receive(172.24.102.10)

server 172.24.102.10, port 123

22 Aug 19:51:29 ntpdate[30465]: step time server 172.24.102.10 offset
1.414813 sec

Wow it worked!? But it only works with the "-d" option. What is the
difference between normal and debgging mode? Lets have a closer look;
without the "-d" option, the src and dest ports are 123. When using
the "-d" option, the src port is not 123 (it is a random high port
number).

On the KVM host and on the VM's there is no firewall active, even if
there was a firewall, in tcpdump the packets should have been shown.

Anyone who can help? Thanks!

Sinan

i think you have to allow the machine on the vm with ntp
default after install ntp is mostly restricted to 127.0.0.1
add them to allowed hosts in the ntp config should solve it

this is the default config on gentoo linux for ntp:

# Default configuration:
# - Allow only time queries, at a limited rate, sending KoD when in excess.
# - Allow all local queries (IPv4, IPv6)
restrict default nomodify nopeer noquery limited kod
restrict 127.0.0.1


as you can see, no other host then the local machin is allowed.
add the other hosts and retry.

slainte

marko


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