Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:12:27PM -0600, Jim Fehlig via Devel wrote: >> A good starting point on this journey is supporting the new mapped-ram >> capability in qemu 9.0 [2]. Since mapped-ram is a new on-disk format, I >> assume we'll need a new QEMU_SAVE_VERSION 3 when using it? Otherwise I'm not >> sure how to detect if a saved image is in mapped-ram format vs the existing, >> sequential stream format. > > Yes, we'll need to be supporting 'mapped-ram', so a good first step. > > A question is whether we make that feature mandatory for all save images, > or implied by another feature (parallel save), or an directly controllable > feature with opt-in. > > The former breaks back compat with existnig libvirt, while the latter 2 > options are net new so don't have compat implications. > > In terms of actual data blocks written on disk mapped-ram should be be the > same size, or smaller, than the existing format. > > In terms of logical file size, however, mapped-ram will almost always be > larger. > > This is because mapped-ram will result in a file whose logical size matches > the guest RAM size, plus some header overhead, while being sparse so not > all blocks are written. > > If tools handling save images aren't sparse-aware this could come across > as a surprise and even be considered a regression. > > Mapped ram is needed for parallel saves since it lets each thread write > to a specific region of the file. > > Mapped ram is good for non-parallel saves too though, because the mapping > of RAM into the file is aligned suitably to allow for O_DIRECT to be used. > Currently libvirt has to tunnnel over its iohelper to futz alignment > needed for O_DIRECT. This makes it desirable to use in general, but back > compat hurts... Note that QEMU doesn't support O_DIRECT without multifd. >From mapped-ram patch series v4: - Dropped support for direct-io with fixed-ram _without_ multifd. This is something I said I would do for this version, but I had to drop it because performance is really bad. I think the single-threaded precopy code cannot cope with the extra latency/synchronicity of O_DIRECT. _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx