On 3/16/22 1:17 PM, Claudio Fontana wrote: > On 3/14/22 6:48 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 06:38:31PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote: >>> On 3/14/22 6:17 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 05:30:01PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote: >>>>> the first user is the qemu driver, >>>>> >>>>> virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (64k). >>>>> >>>>> This improves the situation by 400%. >>>>> >>>>> Going through io_helper still seems to incur in some penalty (~15%-ish) >>>>> compared with direct qemu migration to a nc socket to a file. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@xxxxxxx> >>>>> --- >>>>> src/qemu/qemu_driver.c | 6 +++--- >>>>> src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c | 11 ++++++----- >>>>> src/util/virfile.c | 12 ++++++++++++ >>>>> src/util/virfile.h | 1 + >>>>> 4 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) >>>>> >>>>> Hello, I initially thought this to be a qemu performance issue, >>>>> so you can find the discussion about this in qemu-devel: >>>>> >>>>> "Re: bad virsh save /dev/null performance (600 MiB/s max)" >>>>> >>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-03/msg03142.html >>>>> >>>>> RFC since need to validate idea, and it is only lightly tested: >>>>> >>>>> save - about 400% benefit in throughput, getting around 20 Gbps to /dev/null, >>>>> and around 13 Gbps to a ramdisk. >>>>> By comparison, direct qemu migration to a nc socket is around 24Gbps. >>>>> >>>>> restore - not tested, _should_ also benefit in the "bypass_cache" case >>>>> coredump - not tested, _should_ also benefit like for save >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your comments and review, >>>>> >>>>> Claudio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>>> index c1b3bd8536..be248c1e92 100644 >>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>>> @@ -3044,7 +3044,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>>> virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL; >>>>> int directFlag = 0; >>>>> bool needUnlink = false; >>>>> - unsigned int flags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING; >>>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>>> const char *memory_dump_format = NULL; >>>>> g_autoptr(virQEMUDriverConfig) cfg = virQEMUDriverGetConfig(driver); >>>>> g_autoptr(virCommand) compressor = NULL; >>>>> @@ -3059,7 +3059,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>>> >>>>> /* Create an empty file with appropriate ownership. */ >>>>> if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_BYPASS_CACHE) { >>>>> - flags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE; >>>>> + wrapperFlags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE; >>>>> directFlag = virFileDirectFdFlag(); >>>>> if (directFlag < 0) { >>>>> virReportError(VIR_ERR_OPERATION_FAILED, "%s", >>>>> @@ -3072,7 +3072,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>>> &needUnlink)) < 0) >>>>> goto cleanup; >>>>> >>>>> - if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, flags))) >>>>> + if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags))) >>>>> goto cleanup; >>>>> >>>>> if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_MEMORY_ONLY) { >>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>>> index c0139041eb..1b522a1542 100644 >>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>>> @@ -267,7 +267,7 @@ qemuSaveImageCreate(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>>> int fd = -1; >>>>> int directFlag = 0; >>>>> virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL; >>>>> - unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING; >>>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>>> >>>>> /* Obtain the file handle. */ >>>>> if ((flags & VIR_DOMAIN_SAVE_BYPASS_CACHE)) { >>>>> @@ -463,10 +463,11 @@ qemuSaveImageOpen(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>>> if ((fd = qemuDomainOpenFile(cfg, NULL, path, oflags, NULL)) < 0) >>>>> return -1; >>>>> >>>>> - if (bypass_cache && >>>>> - !(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, >>>>> - VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE))) >>>>> - return -1; >>>>> + if (bypass_cache) { >>>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>>> + if (!(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags))) >>>>> + return -1; >>>>> + } >>>>> >>>>> data = g_new0(virQEMUSaveData, 1); >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/src/util/virfile.c b/src/util/virfile.c >>>>> index a04f888e06..fdacd17890 100644 >>>>> --- a/src/util/virfile.c >>>>> +++ b/src/util/virfile.c >>>>> @@ -282,6 +282,18 @@ virFileWrapperFdNew(int *fd, const char *name, unsigned int flags) >>>>> >>>>> ret->cmd = virCommandNewArgList(iohelper_path, name, NULL); >>>>> >>>>> + if (flags & VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE) { >>>>> + /* >>>>> + * virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (usually 64k). >>>>> + * This improves the situation by 400%, although going through io_helper still incurs >>>>> + * in a performance penalty compared with a direct qemu migration to a socket. >>>>> + */ >>>>> + int pipe_sz, rv = virFileReadValueInt(&pipe_sz, "/proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size"); >>>> >>>> This is fine as an experiment but I don't think it is that safe >>>> to use in the real world. There could be a variety of reasons why >>>> an admin can enlarge this value, and we shouldn't assume the max >>>> size is sensible for libvirt/QEMU to use. >>>> >>>> I very much suspect there are diminishing returns here in terms >>>> of buffer sizes. >>>> >>>> 64k is obvious too small, but 1 MB, may be sufficiently large >>>> that the bottleneck is then elsewhere in our code. IOW, If the >>>> pipe max size is 100 MB, we shouldn't blindly use it. Can you >>>> do a few tests with varying sizes to see where a sensible >>>> tradeoff falls ? >>> >>> >>> Hi Daniel, >>> >>> this is a very good point. Actually I see very diminishing returns after the default pipe-max-size (1MB). >>> >>> The idea was that beyond allowing larger size, the admin could have set a _smaller_ pipe-max-size, >>> so we want to use that in that case, otherwise an attempt to use 1MB would result in EPERM, if the process does not have CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN. >>> I am not sure if used with Kubevirt, for example, CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN would be available...? >>> >>> So maybe one idea could be to use the minimum between /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size and for example 1MB, but will do more testing to see where the actual break point is. >> >> That's reasonable. >> > > Just as an update: still running tests with various combinations, and larger VMs (to RAM, to slow disk, and now to nvme). > > For now no clear winner yet. There seems to be a significant benefit already going from 1MB (my previous default) to 2MB, > but anything more than 16MB seems to not improve anything at all. > > But I just need to do more testing, more runs. > > Thanks, > > Claudio > Current results show these experimental averages maximum throughput migrating to /dev/null per each FdWrapper Pipe Size (as per QEMU QMP "query-migrate", tests repeated 5 times for each). VM Size is 60G, most of the memory effectively touched before migration, through user application allocating and touching all memory with pseudorandom data. 64K: 5200 Mbps (current situation) 128K: 5800 Mbps 256K: 20900 Mbps 512K: 21600 Mbps 1M: 22800 Mbps 2M: 22800 Mbps 4M: 22400 Mbps 8M: 22500 Mbps 16M: 22800 Mbps 32M: 22900 Mbps 64M: 22900 Mbps 128M: 22800 Mbps This above is the throughput out of patched libvirt with multiple Pipe Sizes for the FDWrapper. As for the theoretical limit for the libvirt architecture, I ran a qemu migration directly issuing the appropriate QMP commands, setting the same migration parameters as per libvirt, and then migrating to a socket netcatted to /dev/null via {"execute": "migrate", "arguments": { "uri", "unix:///tmp/netcat.sock" } } : QMP: 37000 Mbps --- So although the Pipe size improves things (in particular the large jump is for the 256K size, although 1M seems a very good value), there is still a second bottleneck in there somewhere that accounts for a loss of ~14200 Mbps in throughput. Thanks, Claudio