On 3/14/22 6:48 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 06:38:31PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote: >> On 3/14/22 6:17 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 05:30:01PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote: >>>> the first user is the qemu driver, >>>> >>>> virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (64k). >>>> >>>> This improves the situation by 400%. >>>> >>>> Going through io_helper still seems to incur in some penalty (~15%-ish) >>>> compared with direct qemu migration to a nc socket to a file. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@xxxxxxx> >>>> --- >>>> src/qemu/qemu_driver.c | 6 +++--- >>>> src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c | 11 ++++++----- >>>> src/util/virfile.c | 12 ++++++++++++ >>>> src/util/virfile.h | 1 + >>>> 4 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> Hello, I initially thought this to be a qemu performance issue, >>>> so you can find the discussion about this in qemu-devel: >>>> >>>> "Re: bad virsh save /dev/null performance (600 MiB/s max)" >>>> >>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-03/msg03142.html >>>> >>>> RFC since need to validate idea, and it is only lightly tested: >>>> >>>> save - about 400% benefit in throughput, getting around 20 Gbps to /dev/null, >>>> and around 13 Gbps to a ramdisk. >>>> By comparison, direct qemu migration to a nc socket is around 24Gbps. >>>> >>>> restore - not tested, _should_ also benefit in the "bypass_cache" case >>>> coredump - not tested, _should_ also benefit like for save >>>> >>>> Thanks for your comments and review, >>>> >>>> Claudio >>>> >>>> >>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>> index c1b3bd8536..be248c1e92 100644 >>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c >>>> @@ -3044,7 +3044,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>> virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL; >>>> int directFlag = 0; >>>> bool needUnlink = false; >>>> - unsigned int flags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING; >>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>> const char *memory_dump_format = NULL; >>>> g_autoptr(virQEMUDriverConfig) cfg = virQEMUDriverGetConfig(driver); >>>> g_autoptr(virCommand) compressor = NULL; >>>> @@ -3059,7 +3059,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>> >>>> /* Create an empty file with appropriate ownership. */ >>>> if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_BYPASS_CACHE) { >>>> - flags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE; >>>> + wrapperFlags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE; >>>> directFlag = virFileDirectFdFlag(); >>>> if (directFlag < 0) { >>>> virReportError(VIR_ERR_OPERATION_FAILED, "%s", >>>> @@ -3072,7 +3072,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>> &needUnlink)) < 0) >>>> goto cleanup; >>>> >>>> - if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, flags))) >>>> + if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags))) >>>> goto cleanup; >>>> >>>> if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_MEMORY_ONLY) { >>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>> index c0139041eb..1b522a1542 100644 >>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c >>>> @@ -267,7 +267,7 @@ qemuSaveImageCreate(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>> int fd = -1; >>>> int directFlag = 0; >>>> virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL; >>>> - unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING; >>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>> >>>> /* Obtain the file handle. */ >>>> if ((flags & VIR_DOMAIN_SAVE_BYPASS_CACHE)) { >>>> @@ -463,10 +463,11 @@ qemuSaveImageOpen(virQEMUDriver *driver, >>>> if ((fd = qemuDomainOpenFile(cfg, NULL, path, oflags, NULL)) < 0) >>>> return -1; >>>> >>>> - if (bypass_cache && >>>> - !(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, >>>> - VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE))) >>>> - return -1; >>>> + if (bypass_cache) { >>>> + unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE; >>>> + if (!(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags))) >>>> + return -1; >>>> + } >>>> >>>> data = g_new0(virQEMUSaveData, 1); >>>> >>>> diff --git a/src/util/virfile.c b/src/util/virfile.c >>>> index a04f888e06..fdacd17890 100644 >>>> --- a/src/util/virfile.c >>>> +++ b/src/util/virfile.c >>>> @@ -282,6 +282,18 @@ virFileWrapperFdNew(int *fd, const char *name, unsigned int flags) >>>> >>>> ret->cmd = virCommandNewArgList(iohelper_path, name, NULL); >>>> >>>> + if (flags & VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE) { >>>> + /* >>>> + * virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (usually 64k). >>>> + * This improves the situation by 400%, although going through io_helper still incurs >>>> + * in a performance penalty compared with a direct qemu migration to a socket. >>>> + */ >>>> + int pipe_sz, rv = virFileReadValueInt(&pipe_sz, "/proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size"); >>> >>> This is fine as an experiment but I don't think it is that safe >>> to use in the real world. There could be a variety of reasons why >>> an admin can enlarge this value, and we shouldn't assume the max >>> size is sensible for libvirt/QEMU to use. >>> >>> I very much suspect there are diminishing returns here in terms >>> of buffer sizes. >>> >>> 64k is obvious too small, but 1 MB, may be sufficiently large >>> that the bottleneck is then elsewhere in our code. IOW, If the >>> pipe max size is 100 MB, we shouldn't blindly use it. Can you >>> do a few tests with varying sizes to see where a sensible >>> tradeoff falls ? >> >> >> Hi Daniel, >> >> this is a very good point. Actually I see very diminishing returns after the default pipe-max-size (1MB). >> >> The idea was that beyond allowing larger size, the admin could have set a _smaller_ pipe-max-size, >> so we want to use that in that case, otherwise an attempt to use 1MB would result in EPERM, if the process does not have CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN. >> I am not sure if used with Kubevirt, for example, CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN would be available...? >> >> So maybe one idea could be to use the minimum between /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size and for example 1MB, but will do more testing to see where the actual break point is. > > That's reasonable. > Just as an update: still running tests with various combinations, and larger VMs (to RAM, to slow disk, and now to nvme). For now no clear winner yet. There seems to be a significant benefit already going from 1MB (my previous default) to 2MB, but anything more than 16MB seems to not improve anything at all. But I just need to do more testing, more runs. Thanks, Claudio